"They were afraid of me." Tyra volunteer about dialogue with the occupiers and that surprised her after being released from captivity - interview

As for me, sports are the best rehab, I am now doing sports rehab. You see, I'm here in the shooting, it's a meadow shooting, I feel much better. - I just told the audience that it is very important for us to talk about what was happening and continues to happen in Mariupol. Among other things, we talked to Volunteer Anna Voroshva, she was also detained by Russians, got to Donetsk, and then to a concentration camp in Olenivka. She told that the escorts of the so -called "DNR" were the most violent.

She even brought such a quote, she was told: "Well, devoured? Now live as we are in poverty. " With regard to your experience and people with the so -called "DNR", we are talking about Ukrainians who have been living in the occupied territory for eight years. What was your communication experience if you can say? - In fact, I did not take such a conversation at all, because I had other things I think about.

Of course, they are set to equalize our standard of living with them, to force us to live as they live. Why so? I do not know, but I did not pay very much attention to such things, because I was simply not able to respond to everything. - I saw in an interview that you gave the New York Times, you talked about that is such a scary but interesting detail; that in the offices of people in this prison had portraits of Stalin, Beria and Henry Yagoda, all these Soviet executioners.

Now that the month has passed after you explain it? We had a black tulip volunteer, he deals with the fact that he collects the bodies of the dead, which applies to both Ukrainians and occupiers. He said that in 2014 he was tried to shoot him in Slavyansk, referring to the law of 1941. How do you explain it? - I think they just got stuck in a scoop and maybe they are comfortable there. They need to somehow justify their violence, cruelty about us.

For example, when they insist that we are the Nazis, but when I said that you were here in three days 20 times 20 times what a nation I was, and in Ukraine I never heard this issue in 30 years.

That is, in Ukraine only citizenship is interested, and nationality is not interested at all, how do you explain it? Did they say that in the Soviet Union in the passport was the same nationality? I said you just live in the past and you have no future because this scoop pulls you back, you will write a sentence yourself. Why so? Perhaps because when they grew, there were young, beautiful, but now not so young and not so beautiful. They just miss the past times, maybe yes.

- One thing, if they were just sad in the past and did not touch others, and the other story when they go war and kill the best people here in Ukraine. I watched the interview with Azov Dmitry Shevchenko with a cherry call sign, he told that he was very injured, he was kept in hospital. He said that the nurses even told him that he would not even look in their eyes. Was there something similar in your experience? - Yes, it was.

In general, this manner of dressing a bag on your head is not just because you do not see where you are, what corridors you spend you. It is not just because it humiliate you to break your will. And this is also the least faced with a look with the prisoner. Of course, this is a fear, sometimes I just smell fear. I don't know what I was so scary I was, I don't know, I can't explain it. It seems that they fear us.

- I wanted to ask those people, escorts who kept you and who, we can say, psychologically and physically tortured you, are they all with your brains? They actually believe in the Nazis, in the biolaboratory, believe that we fired for eight years, although statistics show that in 2021 seven people were killed in the occupied Donetsk and Luhansk regions. - I think it seemed like that, I had such an impression, maybe I am wrong that some of them, the percent of 80 really believe in it.

And others support this legend, again, to justify themselves in their own eyes. I did not feel about 20% of those executioners in words that they really believe in it. - We remember that after your detention, this crazy plot appeared on the NTV channel, Russian propaganda, it is clear that you were compared to Hitler.

And those people who came to shoot this plot, what are the people? These are cynical professionals who work for the mortgage, say "it is just our job", are it also motivated people with washed brains who believe that they were caught here? -Again, I got the impression that they worked the room, as they say, tried to find any excuse and catch up to anything. They asked provocative questions and they waited for me to make a mistake. This is such a technique.

They obviously had the task of making some compromising material for further installation. I didn't feel that they hated me, I didn't feel that there were some emotions. - Professional cynics, apparently. - Yes, undoubtedly. - We understand that you were in an information vacuum, so they press psychologically, everyone tells that Kyiv is already taken, Zaporozhye, Kharkiv. Plus, they are still turning on these crazy news with Russian propaganda.

What did you learn first about Ukraine when you released, what was your most surprise if you can remember it? - she was surprised. I was surprised, just as successfully, how cool Ukraine rejected the enemy from Kiev, it really struck me. I was just surprised, despite the fact that I was involved in the volunteer movement and the war for eight years, surprised that the whole people as one person, just as one creature, gathered.

I knew it would be a lot of support, but I didn't know that it would be so cool. The respect of this nation is beautiful, just fantastic. I was very upset about the news of how many my friends died during the time I was cut off from the great world, and I still count the loss, unfortunately. - Here I have to remind our listeners and viewers that you have founded a volunteer organization of doctors, it is called the Angels of Tyra.

What happened to Tyra Angels while you were captured? - Oh, all the angels have proven themselves well, all now either in the Armed Forces, or in the National Guard, or somewhere as volunteers are involved in armed conflict, of course. The wounded civilians and military are evacuated, of course. I had the idea to revive the unit, but as I know, now everyone is practically busy and I would not want to tear them out of place, let them be where they will, may I join them somewhere.

- What was posted is a video from your body camera that you were shooting in Mariupol, the Associated Press has posted a fragment. We see the terrible footage of what is happening as you help people. But among these shots is a fragment where you help a wounded Russian, Russian military. I know people who can condemn it and what is your motivation? - It is not my business to judge it, my business is to fulfill the laws of war. According to the laws of the war he is not captured, he is also injured.

Medical assistance should be provided in full, and special authorities should already decide his fate, make him a sentence after hearing his case, after the investigation. So that we do not look like those who torture us all there and torture us now because I can't sleep, I cannot breathe normally because my brothers suffer now and my sisters are just a hasty as a Gestapo. - Speaking of Mariupol, it is really important to talk about what happened there. You were in Mariupol from the first day.

I will not ask what you saw there because it is clear what you saw there. But many people ask, did you expect that so cruelly, they would ruthlessly destroy the Ukrainian city? - I can say that I felt that the person whose will all happens, she is capable of many things. My subconscious knew that there would be a great war, but my brain refused to believe it, it was 100%. I reassured myself and tried to destroy these bad premonitions with good thoughts. Unfortunately, they came true.