"Fleeing, they jumped into the river in the underworld." As the Armed Forces are married by invaders from Kharkiv region - interview with Taras Berezovets
Even the American Institute for War Study has reported that Kupyansk could be released in 72 hours. Could you hint, or do it look like the truth? Video Day - All such reports can only comment on official representatives of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. I can only confirm that there are photos on social networks that show the presence of Ukrainian soldiers near the ceiling for entering the city of Kupyansk with the Ukrainian flag.
And these photos are obviously taken today, they are not old. Where exactly are the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, in what number, we will find out a little later. But I have to say that the pace of the Ukrainian offensive, both in the direction of Kupyansk, and what is happening in Kharkiv in Kharkiv is quite optimistic. - Could you share what you saw in Kharkiv region released from the occupiers? - It is a huge number of trophies that were obtained by units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
Without exception, all the brigades involved in this offensive operation take away a huge number of ammunition, Russian weapons, and many of it are very modern. For example, the fighters of our Brigade Bohun received Russian modern grenade launchers, which were in the package, I would call it deluxe - parchment paper, and then in a vacuum plastic package. Stocking takes a long time.
In order to prepare them in the positions (and they were in positions), it was necessary to spend at least 10 minutes of time, which testifies, most likely, that their commander saved and for some reason did not want to give [weapons] to their soldiers. At the same time, we found a lot of old Soviet weapons in boxes. It is about Soviet grenade launchers with the inscription "Not Feel".
That is, they deliberately gave them weapons, grenade launchers that were not functional, which could not be fired. Our officers concluded that they were indeed unsuitable for use. In positions, they left a huge amount of personal hygiene. I personally found many tubes of paste, their clothes, insects and the like. Interestingly, we found the lamps on the makeshift dryers that hung there. They did not pick them up.
They ran suddenly, in a panic, left not only their clothes, but also their weapons in good fit. In addition, the day before we were from the fighters from another brigade, they brought as many Russian trophy weapons that were captured. Among what was obtained in these trophies was even a washing machine. - What Russian units were in the territories we have already released? - From what we saw, there were units of the Samara and Bashkir catra (a special gear of time reagent - Rus. ).
Personally, I did not see them, but they were seen by fighters of other units. In addition, there were Russian Marines from Kaliningrad. And there were units of Russian paratroopers, including Pskov paratroopers. They left many letters, including children. I have the impression that they were written centrally because a lot is printed on computers or on printing machines. There are letters from various veteran organizations, schools, labor collectives.
The last time I remember such a Ugar during the Afghan War - the impression that they gave the discharge to print a certain number of these letters. They are mostly written in a very formalized language. The only, however, we found a handwritten letter: it was written by some girls and looked so strange. Today, our intelligence officers brought another interesting document, a handwritten letter, which is called a presidential letter.
He was written by the fighter of the so -called "Lugansk People's Republic" with the initials of Tarasenko V. V. It does not indicate his title, he is from the town of Kalinine of the Luhansk region. In this pre -death letter, he turns to his wife and writes that they were thrown by Russians without weapons, without ammunition completely, without protective vests, without BC. He says goodbye to her and says, "Say our sine that the folder did not dust and smoke.
However, this is a letter I write in the states. And in general it would be good at the sea. " So I quoted as close as possible to the original what was written there. - I realized that there was a position called Moscow. Could you tell her? - Sure. There was a fierce battle on Moscow's position. It came to the hand, but when the Russians realized that they losing, they escaped, leaving many documents, a lot of their ammunition, and jumped into the Siverskyi Donets River.
By the way, this picture in the style of a striped flight (such a Soviet comedy) was removed by our fighters from the copy. It looks very funny, because they jumped who could - who was dressed, and who was not quite dressed, actually jumped into the river and sailed to the other shore. In this place, the Siverskyi Donets is not very wide, but deep enough, there is a rather strong current. It was. - These territories were occupied for several months.
How is filtering now? You have reported that there were Russian military who tried to leave car with Ukrainian numbers in civilian clothes. - Not ready to comment because it is an exclusive prerogative of counterintelligence. I can only say that there were enough agents, informants in these territories, because even we faced and our fighters detained Russian informants, gunners who were very actively and brazenly in this frontal area.
There was a case when a person who introduced himself to a local resident was detained. He was riding a bicycle, and she said strangely that at that moment he was traveling to Balakliya. When he was asked "Balakliya was occupied, how are you going to get?", He replied that he was traveling there. In general, he behaved strange. The distance was quite large for a bike ride. Moreover, it was already an evening, close to the curfew.
Despite the fact that he denied that he had never been in Russia, he had photos (according to a strange coincidence) on the territory of the Russian Federation at the Russian troops parade. After that, it is clear that he was nowhere to hide, he exposed himself. - You were on one of the destroyed Russian pontoons.
What is known about how they tried to move to the Seversky Don, in addition to jumping when they were running away from the Armed Forces? - I have to say that the bridges or crossings they left were all completely replaced, so the movement was immediately impossible from one bank of the Seversky Donets to another. They moved the bridges, the bridges did not blow up.
This was due to speed - they needed to leave positions quickly, and they could not get to the bridge, so they just jumped into the river, but the crossing remained. As for the pontoon crossing. We really found one of the elements of the pontoon bridge. It was semi -enlarged, destroyed by Ukrainian artillery. Where they moved it, for what purpose - I am not ready to answer it. It was about three kilometers from Siverskyi Donets. In general, they installed several pontoon crossings.
I think this was primarily due to clear reasons - the activity of Ukrainian artillery. They feared that these crossings would be destroyed, so they were preparing, having the experience of the Kherson region, in advance these pontoon crossings to flee. - The positions of the Russians were quite well fortified, and we still see that they were running. We can understand that we should not talk about some motivation on their part that they are ready to die to the last to keep Moscow's position.
- Undoubtedly. Undoubtedly, the material factor for them remained key, which is visible from numerous radios. In fact, all this propaganda tinsel that someone is waiting for them there, that Russian citizens love them and the like - this was no motivation for them. From what we see and hear in radio interceptions, the key factors for them were the opportunity to get salaries, compensations for ourselves and the opportunity to engage in looting.
At the same time, before the offensive, we recorded the fall of their moral and psychological state. There have been numerous cases that confirm our sources that during our shelling they exhibited hands and feet, limbs from trenches in order to get the fragments of shells to get injured and quickly leave the front line. Cases such as we know, in particular from the locals, have been not uncommon. It is clear that in general, the attitude towards the locals was very brutal.
Many wracks were destroyed, left without roofs, knocked out windows. There are very few people in the settlements. For the most part, these were the elderly who simply did not have the physical ability to leave. -We see how strongly the Russian propagandists (and not only them) float, as well as their audience, which reads them in telegrams. This call "Nikakoy Panika Net" did not work. We see other calls: "We ask not to publish criticism against the Russian Defense Ministry.
" I think it will not work either, because such bans have never worked, especially among the Russian population. What to expect from them? We do not have to underestimate the enemy. -We can expect from the enemy of anything. We see it today - at night it was subjected to shelling of Kharkiv. About 10 missiles have arrived in Kharkiv, we heard it on our own ears. The rockets flew to the central part, in particular to Shevchenkivskyi district.
The kindergarten was partially destroyed and the office space was harmed in the Kharkiv center. The night was terrible tonight. They place their malice, as always, in the civilian population. And it is strange: their troops in the Kharkiv region are now in a critical situation, but instead of causing strokes that would be logical, in the units of the Armed Forces, they attack Kharkiv, local communities. Therefore, you can expect anything.
The question of the possible use of Putin of nuclear weapons or the organization of man -made disaster at a nuclear object - the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant, apparently, is already a question not hypothetical. Therefore, honestly, I would have kept from the hats of hatch and too optimistic moods. Yes, of course, we have success, but we need to understand who we are dealing with. It is a very dangerous enemy who will not stop before another violation of the rules of war.
- Commander -in -Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Valery Zaluzhny published a program article. He believes that even the use of tactical nuclear weapons by the Russians will not stop our resistance. What is your opinion on this? - I fully agree with this opinion of the Glavcom. All Ukrainian people have been waiting for a long time, the Armed Forces of Ukraine were waiting for the possibility of liberation of our territories.
As this counter -offensive began, I saw how the moods changed, how the eyes of our soldiers changed, how motivated they were. It should be understood that they are exhausted, they have been fighting for the third day in a row, people have not slept for the last two or three days. If they slept, then for several hours in constant shelling, constant fire contact with opponents.
And, unlike what is happening in the south, where direct fire contact, they almost do not lead the shooting battle, it is in Kharkiv region that there are many examples of what comes even to melee or small -scale battle. Today, a large number of small arms shots are being made, we see, both us and the enemy. Therefore, if we are already moving to the nuclear scenario, it will undoubtedly not break the spirit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, I am convinced, and the Ukrainian people.