"We urge Crimeans to protest." The Russian Federation in these borders should not exist after the victory of Ukraine - interview with the reflection of Chubarov
- What is happening in Crimea now and why are the Crimean Tatars the main object for mobilization on the peninsula? Video of the day-with the announcement of the so-called partial mobilization in Russia, which, of course, the occupying country completely illegally spread to the occupied Ukrainian territories, in particular in the Crimea, they were able to punish the Crimean Tatars at the same , indomitable.
Lists of lists of already mobilized people, who were forcibly taken away on September 22, have been demonstrated that in the settlements where it took place, the vast majority of mobilized are ethnic Crimean Tatars. Russian invaders, including those who pursue this Russian occupation policy in the Crimea, have hated us in the time of [intact] Ukrainian sovereignty.
Now they believe that it is time for them and so they want to demolish the Crimean Tatar people, destroying its adult male population of the military. All Crimea now says this. Because in fact, the Crimean Tatars, which make up only 13-14% of the Crimean population, are great in those lists of mobilized.
- Do you see the signs of an act of genocide in this? -I am an act of genocide is that a large humanitarian catastrophe is now unfolding, as the occupying country puts hundreds of thousands of people who have their relatives and friends here. They are ethnic Ukrainians or Crimean Tatars if we talk about Crimea. This disaster expands every day. Ukraine insists on gathering the UN Security Council on illegal so -called referendums that take place in the occupied [territories].
It seems to me that this meeting should also be talked about this humanitarian catastrophe. We understand that now the Kremlin, Moscow no longer listen to any calls. They are all international acts, including the 1949 Geneva Convention, which prohibits the occupied countries of the occupied territories in their own armed forces . . . That is, Moscow is now in Tsymbala.
But it is necessary to speak about it, to record that it is also charged with the accusation that will be formulated at the special international tribunal. We are now, as the Majlis of the Crimean Tatar people, together with government agencies and governments of other countries, we try to help the people who are trying to avoid mobilization in every way. There are many questions. And some countries do not allow, related to Russia, which have common borders with it.
Our people break through Russian borders by truths and wrongs, but they cannot get to other countries because there are formal obstacles. We are now working with their governments so that the people who are now trying to leave the territory controlled by Russia through the territory of the Russian Federation are able to find safe conditions in third countries. - How possible? It is about departure through the Crimean bridge. But there, too, Russians check, control and often do not release people.
- The more we talk about such details, the more Russians will create some obstacles. Now all our services, especially the Foreign Ministry, are urgently needed to find an understanding with some countries - Georgia, Azerbaijan. We need them to give corridors to save the citizens of Ukraine - residents of the occupied Crimea. They have a lot of formalities.
And these formalities do not allow people who, for example, could not issue Ukrainian documents for children who were born yesterday or year ago. People have real Ukrainian passports, but they cannot enter because they have young children who have a birth certificate issued by the occupation administration. - If suddenly people mobilize what to do? What is the instruction? - People do not have a choice, unfortunately, and we are talking about it. It is said that there is always.
And here is a choice, but one that requires concentration of courage, dedication and a lot of psychological efforts. Our suggestions are. Publicly abandon any mobilization action.
To declare the inability to involve a person in the armed forces of the occupying country due to the fact that he is a citizen of Ukraine and considers himself so; that he does not want to become an accomplice to an international crime committed by the Russian occupation administration; that he does not want to oppose his own state - Ukraine, does not want to be guilty of killing his fellow citizens. In addition, we urged people to unite and go to protests.
The only place we determined the central square of Simferopol. It is still called Lenin's name today. We urge people to come there on working days at 17. 00, on weekends - at 12. 00. We understand that one will come at once, but the situation will not be solved today or tomorrow, it will deteriorate. People will be killed, other human disasters will be killed. And our appeal [addressed] not only to the Crimean Tatars. At least 500,000 ethnic Ukrainians live in Crimea.
We cannot now allow ethnic Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars to be placed against their brother - against Ukrainians and Crimean Tatars, who are now defending their homeland, Ukraine. Russia is doing everything now to grind us as peoples.
Do you realize what will happen when hundreds of thousands of people who have roots in Ukraine [will be fighting against Ukrainians]? We are not talking about the mobilization that goes on the territory of Russia itself - in the Urals, in the Far East, where there are also many people from Ukraine. We are looking for ways [getting out of the situation]. If I said we know very real effective mechanisms, it would be false. We communicate with people who in Russia or in emigration daily.
We see only one way of defeat of Russia on all fronts, but it requires that people get up in the occupied Crimea, so first of all in Russia itself. It is not possible, because there is very great fear. - About the Russians in the Crimea. For them, some betrayal is treacherous on the part of Russia, although it is not surprising.
But I wonder if something is changing in their heads? - In a situation where such human tragedies related to the Crimean Tatars, with the Ukrainians, with our state are taking place every day . . . There is such a war and at this moment to think about those scoundrels that brought the "Russian peace" to the territory of Crimea, which became the leaders of this war. And now they really have a sobering, but I do not rejoice, because very expensive this crime has done and costing us.
I think that after the war, we will think of who lives near us a thousand times so that they never intend to repeat what they did with us in 2014 in Crimea, a little later - in the Donbass, what they do on occupied Ukrainian lands now. And I do not care who they are - ethnic Russians or representatives of other Russian ethnic groups. We need to do everything to ensure that the Russian Federation in the borders in which there is today does not exist after our victory.
Since [otherwise] over us constantly, there will be a threat of attack by Moscow forever. I think we can interact with those Russians who understand it and who want to build their future life. After all, they also have the right to future and ethnic Russians. But let them think and offer the whole world-not only to us, Ukrainians-such a model Yakutam. To finally there be freedom.